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EIX Working Group – Sessions I + II

Wolfgang Tremmel, DE-CIX, shared DE-CIX’s experiences with their ongoing Apollon migration. Ben Hedges, LINX, gave an update on the peering scene as seen from LINX. Next, Harald Michl, UniVie/ACOnet/VIX, updated the group on the status of the IXP wishlist review. The group then heard a selection of updates from various IXPs on their recent news. To round off the session, Kaveh Ranjbar, RIPE NCC, explained how the
RIPE Atlas network might benefit IXPs and their customers.

Following a proposal by Nick Hilliard, Inex, the EIX Working Group reached consensus to disband. There were suggestions to organise a new Interconnection BoF during RIPE 68 in Warsaw in order to work on a charter and the creation of a new Interconnection Working Group. Several people volunteered to organise the BoF, including Nina Bargisen, Netflix; Martin Levy, Hurricane Electric; Ren Provo, Apple, Inc.; and Mauro Magrassi, Mix Milan.

IPv6 Working Group – Session II

Following Wednesday’s session, the second IPv6 Working Group session kicked off with Yannis Nikolopoulos, OTE, who presented a case study of an ISP IPv6 addressing plan.
Benedikt Stockebrand, Stepladder IT, provided an entertaining talk on “Small Scale Redundant IPv6 Uplinks without BGP”. Jen Linkova, Google, gave an animated presentation (Star Wars quote and all) about IPv6 source addresses that included results from an experiment, collecting data for a few days both two years ago, before IPv6 Launch Day, and again this year. Tassos Chatzithomaoglou, Forthnet, gave an informative presentation about IPv6, DS-Lite and PCP. He conceded that switching on IPv6 was much easier than they at Forthnet had initially thought, especially as they had already implemented support within their infrastructure on several levels. Marco Hogewoning, IPv6 Working Group Chair, wrapped up the session by inviting feedback regarding the IPv6-only network – response was positive and there was expressed demand from the room for an IPv6-only network at RIPE 68 and beyond.

Database Working Group

Johan Åhlén and Denis Walker, RIPE NCC, gave an update on various changes to the RIPE Database software and features, including the software release process. Rüdiger Volk, Deutsche Telekom Technik GmbH, presented his own slide about the minimum requirements for the release process, and there was much debate about it. There was also discussion about the abuse-c attribute, which is available in production and will soon become mandatory for all objects in the RIPE Database. Zoltan Szamonek, Google, gave a presentation about self-published geo-feeds, which allow a network operator to provide geolocation data about their prefixes to a content distribution network. As part of other business, an audience speaker said that a large proportion of routing data in the RIPE Database is inaccurate, and should either be fixed or deleted.

Routing Working Group

Alex Band, RIPE NCC, presented a new feature of the RIPE NCC RPKI efforts: making minority space eligible for RPKI. The RIPE NCC built a framework that now allows signing of these resources via the corresponding “majority RIR”. This means that LIRs that hold prefixes out of minority space will now see these in their certificate. Currently, address space held by non-members and legacy address space are excluded from this service, pending the acceptance of related policy proposals. Denis Walker, RIPE NCC, presented the idea of a potential separation between how we manage data as opposed to how we present data in the RIPE Database.

Anti-Abuse Working Group

Denis Walker, RIPE NCC, talked about the implementation progress of policy 2011-06, “Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE NCC”. The RIPE NCC now provides a simple form in the LIR Portal for adding this information. Towards the end of 2013, all LIRs that haven’t added this information will be
updated with default information. Sander Steffann, SJM Steffann, mentioned there was little discussion about policy proposal 2013-01 and asked for comment. Tobias Knecht, abusix GmbH, presented on X-ARF (Extended Abuse Reporting Format). The standard is quite stable now, and several large companies are using it for consistent reporting of abuse. Thorsten Kraft, eco e.V., introduced ACDC (Advanced Cyber Defence Centre), a cross-border, EU-funded project to share information and solutions about cyber attacks.

MAT Working Group

Enrico Gregori, IIT-CNR, gave an overview of how the Isolario project is helping to create a map of the Internet at the Autonomous System level, using active and passive techniques involving smartphone crowdsourcing. Emile Aben, RIPE NCC, suggested the community could find ways to better geolocate Internet infrastructure and make this data publicly available. Attendees agreed that this would be a good idea and will follow up on the MAT Working Group Mailing List. Razvan Oprea, RIPE NCC, presented results from a study that looked at how organisations in critical infrastructure sectors within the Netherlands connect to the Internet. He used public sources of information working at the AS level to discover that many of these organisations may need to rethink their connectivity strategies. Vesna Manojlovic, RIPE NCC, gave an update on RIPEstat, the RIPE NCC’s “one-stop shop” for information about Internet number resources, including the new BGPlay and Abuse Contact Finder widgets, and customisable views. Vesna also updated the group on the latest features in RIPE Atlas and introduced the new RIPE Atlas anchor service, which will add regional targets to the network.

Cooperation Working Group

The session kicked off with a panel on Internet Exchange Points, Internet interconnection and the public sector. Patrik Fältström, Netnod, moderated a discussion with panelists Panayiotis Gotsis, GRNET; Jane Coffin, Internet Society (ISOC); and Malcolm Hutty, Linx. It looked at issues of Internet interconnectivity in the developing world and the efforts towards developing community-based IXPs. Athina Fragkouli, RIPE NCC, provided an update on EU legislative developments regarding network security, while Nathan Hickson, Netflix, discussed ICANN’s development of a European regional engagement strategy. Chris Buckridge, RIPE NCC, concluded with a look ahead to 2014, including ITU and governmental events. The session closed with a decision by the working group to consider several nominees for co-chair on the Cooperation Working Group Mailing List over the coming months.

RIPE 67 Dinner at Balux Lounge

Everyone enjoyed a lovely evening of drinks on the terrace, dinner, conversation, and traditional Greek dancing at the Balux Lounge. Old and new friends and colleagues had a chance to compare notes and make new memories. Many thanks to our sponsor, Netnod!